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New ATP Rule

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What are the course contents for the 30 hours of ground time required for ATP cert.?

Who is certified to teach this?

Will a regional airline provide this training so you can obtain ATP sponsored by the airline?

I am asking for future planning purposes and remain hopeful to one day obtain this rating.

 

Thank you for the feedback.

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  1. Wes Beard on Jul 03, 2014

    Information pertaining to the training requirements are found in FAR §61.156.

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    (a) Academic training. The applicant for the knowledge test must receive at least 30 hours of classroom instruction that includes the following:

    (1) At least 8 hours of instruction on aerodynamics including high altitude operations;
    (2) At least 2 hours of instruction on meteorology, including adverse weather phenomena and weather detection systems; and
    (3) At least 14 hours of instruction on air carrier operations, including the following areas:

    (i) Physiology;
    (ii) Communications;
    (iii) Checklist philosophy;
    (iv) Operational control;
    (v) Minimum equipment list/configuration deviation list;
    (vi) Ground operations;
    (vii) Turbine engines;
    (viii) Transport category aircraft performance;
    (ix) Automation, navigation, and flight path warning systems.

    (4) At least 6 hours of instruction on leadership, professional development, crew resource management, and safety culture.

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    As of this date, I am unaware of any training center or Part 141 school that offers this specialized training. I would imagine most training centers (Part 142) are developing a course that specifically deals with this new requirement.

    I don’t know if a regional airline would provide this training or not and I wouldn’t be surprised if some did and others did not. Best to ask each individual airline.

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  2. Sterlin Hale on Jul 04, 2014

    Not to hijack the thread but every time I see these courses listed out on a board it reminds me of most the areas that were covered in the aviation program I attended in college. Will there be any credit given for college classes like there was as far as the hours were concerned?

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  3. Mark Kolber on Jul 04, 2014

    Probably not Sterlin. The FAA is pretty specific about what it wants (See AC 61-138 Airline Transport Pilot Certification Training Program) and I think it unlikely prior courses will be retroactively brought into the program.

    The only thing I think is there is the use of prior or alternate training to reduce the requirements, but that results in a “restricted” ATP – see FAR 61.160. Even then, the FAA needs to approve the program for that purpose. ALPA has
    a list of those programs and a pretty decent discussion of the rules with links to related materials.

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  4. Sam Dawson on Jul 06, 2014

    The regionals I am aware of are giving this training to new hires. They will not have a choice if they want to attract pilots.

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  5. Dan Chitty on Jul 10, 2014

    Thank you all for the feedback.

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