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Logging PIC Time for R-22/44 Flights

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FAA Regulations, Helicopter

I'm a military helicopter pilot, helicopter ATP and Helicopter CFI/I.  I've never flown in a Robinson before getting some time recently in the R-22 and R-44.  R-22 was with a CFI. Can I log PIC and dual instruction time with the CFI when I am the sole manipulator of the controls?  The R-44 time was with a private pilot, can I log PIC time when at the controls flying with him?  I'm a rated helicopter pilot but don't know if the rating for PIC time means that I need to have a flight review in the aircraft?

 

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  1. Kris Kortokrax on Jun 22, 2014

    You need to take a look at Special FAR 73. It is available on http://www.faa.gov

    It essentially states that you should not have been manipulating the controls of an R-22 or R-44 without having received the awareness training and an endorsement.

    After having received the awareness training, you may log PIC time while manipulating the controls of the helicopter as you are rated for helicopters. 61.51(e)(1)(i)

    You may not act as PIC until you accumulate 10 hours of dual in the R-22 and an additional 5 hours of dual in the R-44 (5 hours of dual in the R-22 are allowed to be counted towards the 10 hours for the R-44). You will also need a flight review in each model you wish to fly as a PIC.

    If you want to act as an Instructor in the R-22/R-44, you will need 50 hours of experience in each model. 25 hours of R-22 time may be applied to the 50 hour requirement for the R-44.

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  2. Cobra Pilot on Jun 22, 2014

    Do you need the awareness training for both R-22 and R-44 or just once?

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  3. Kris Kortokrax on Jun 22, 2014

    Just once. The subject material is listed in SFAR 73 and is probably info you are already familiar with, but you still need the training and endorsement. Paperwork.

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  4. Cobra Pilot on Jun 22, 2014

    I completed the awareness training, so I guess I can log PIC time when I’m at the controls.
    Thanks for the help!

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