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CFI ASE vs CFI MEI

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If you perform your CFI in a Piper Seminole and receive an MEI add on during your initial CFI check, do you have to take another check ride to be an approved CFI for ASE?

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  1. Kris Kortokrax on May 24, 2012

    If you perform your INITIAL CFI in the Seminole, you receive a flight instructor certificate with an Airplane Multiengine rating.  It is not an add-on.  It is your initial rating.  Yes, you do need to accomplish another practical test to receive an Airplane Single Engine rating.  That practical need not be performed in a complex single engine airplane, as you have already demonstrated the complex tasks in the Seminole.
     
    This is information with which one would expect a flight instructor candidate to be familiar.

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  2. Lucas on May 25, 2012

    Dear Kyle, Kris is absolutely correct.
    Think about it, have you done any commercial maneuvers during your Seminole ride, such as chandelles, lazy eights or eights on pylons. If you had done them you would surely deserve a CFI add on, but the examiner would probably get a 709 ride once the paperwork gets to Ok City.
     
    Stay safe and have fun
    Lucas

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  3. Kris Kortokrax on May 25, 2012

    Kyle would not have done chandelles, lazy eights or pylon eights during the CFI-ME practical because they are not required for the M/E rating.  He would still not have received a Single engine addon even if he had done the maneuvers in the Seminole.  The Single engine rating requires a separate practical test.
     
    Reference the 709, the examiner would not be subject to a 709 ride because the examining authority is not a certificate issued under 49 USC 44703.  44709 comes into play when the FAA has reason to question the airman’s ability to meet the requirements (his piloting skills) to hold his airman certificate.  If the examiner does something contrary to policy, his examining authority could be summarily removed for cause.

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  4. Nathan Parker on May 25, 2012

    “This is information with which one would expect a flight instructor candidate to be familiar.”
     
    But probably a minority are.  As people go through their training, they hear terms like “CFI”, “Double I”, and “MEI”, and have trouble relating this to the standard certificate and rating arrangement of the pilot certificates.  The CFI Instructor should take pains to clarify this to CFI candidates, but I’m not sure enough of them understand “rating theory” to be able to do so.  This is an example of how education in the various trades is inferior to academic training.  Students have to memorize a lot of facts, but learn almost no theory to hold those facts together.

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