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Training under 141 and I want to do my commercial multi check under 61

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I did my training under 141 but the wait for the check ride is a month. Can I leave my school and find an FAA examiner and aircraft with the same equipment to compleat the  check ride? 

 

Will the hour requirements be a problem? Or will completing all the training under 142 including the stage check take care of that hour requirement?

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  1. KDS on Jul 26, 2019

    In your second paragraph, you wrote 142, but I assume you meant 141. They are two very different schools.

    The answer is (partly), that it depends on what the hour reduction allowed for your 141 school is. However, if you read the Part 61 requirements and you have them, then you can certainly take the check using Part 61. Of course, you will still need an instructor’s recommendation and your Part 141 instructor may or may not be willing to do that.

    However, if your goal is to take the check quickly, you might be just as well off to take it Part 141 since DPE’s are normally booked well in advance. I doubt you would get one much sooner than a month.

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  2. Rkon on Jul 27, 2019

    I’d like to rise “followed by” question: Are there any differences in check rides after completion part 61 and part 141 courses of study? Of cause, we assume that student completed all stage checks, end of course check, written test, and has endorsement for check ride.
    If answer will be “NO”, it means that flight time requirements depends on course of study, not on exam itself.

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  3. Craig Johnston on Jul 27, 2019

    The exam is the same whether 61 or 141.
    To take the test under 61, you must meet the aeronautical experience of 61, have the required endorsements, and complete an 8710-1 without checking the ‘approved graduate’ box, and you’ll need your recommending to e-sign the application.

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  4. KDS on Jul 27, 2019

    Some Part 141 schools have what is called “Self Testing Authority”. That allows them to grant certificates based upon successful completion of the course. I cannot remember having encountered one, but I know such a thing was allowed in the regulations.

    Beyond that, the check SHOULD be the same. However, in reality, there can be a substantial difference. That difference is more dependent upon the examiner and not Part 61 versus Part 141.

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  5. Rkon on Jul 28, 2019

    Yeah, KDS, I did it! My part 141 school assigned me on “all-in-one” PPL exam: end of course check and check ride was the same flight. It became possible due to in-house DPE and special permit from FAA to school. I was really surprised!
    And I was more surprised again when wasn’t able to repeat this trick on IR: as DPE told me, school was granted such permit for private applicants only.

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  6. KDS on Jul 28, 2019

    That is a bit of FAA logic I’ve never found comforting. I’ve seen the same thing with DPE’s. The FAA with give authorization to conduct private tests only. Then after some period of satisfactory performance by the DPE, they will grant them more authority. I feel it should be the other way around. I feel the most critical practical test is the private pilot test, yet the FAA treats that as something that doesn’t merit the most experienced examiner’s eye.

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  7. CarsonAviation on Jul 30, 2019

    Call your local FSDO and insist they send an ASI to do your ride. A 141 school is technically an agent of the FAA and the FAA can conduct their own rides when they want to.

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