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Logging flight time in a PC12

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Hello all, I have a bit of an odd question.  I am currently a CFI/II.  I have a mutual friend who owns a PC12 and flies it occasionally on business trips.  I am trying to figure out a way that I can legally log the flight time.  The pilatus requires only a single pilot, and does not require a type rating. I do not have a high performance endorsement so I believe that would be my first step.  After that, I'm not so sure.  The owner is a private pilot so I believe I could technically instruct him if he were logging that time and working toward a commercial rating.  Or if he were to fly 'under the hood' for the flight, I could log SIC time( I don't think he will agree to me acting PIC). I'm not trying to break any rules, I just want to know if there is a legal way I can log this time.  Thank you in advance.

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  1. John D Collins on Dec 19, 2015

    Assuming you are rated ASEL with a complex endorsement, in order to act as PIC in the PC12, you would need two endorsements that you may not have, the high performance endorsement 61.31(f) and the pressurized aircraft endorsement 61.31(g). However, you indicate the aircraft owner is not likely to permit you to act as PIC.

    In order to log PIC is a different matter. You may log PIC anytime you are the sole manipulator of the controls or are providing instruction in an aircraft you are rated to fly. Your rating is ASEL, so the PC12 qualifies. You may log second in command any time you are performing the duties of a safety pilot, but not providing instruction. Logging does not require the two endorsements, only acting as PIC requires them.

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  2. 80ktsXcheck on Dec 20, 2015

    Thank you. I was unaware that I can still log PIC even without having the high performance or pressurized endorsement.

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