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Commercial pilot privileges

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I have my private muti instrument, and almost done with my commercial multi. A collegiate school's football team has requested that I fly their coaches (2-4) to their away football games, recruiting trips, ect. Am I able to fly for hire for them under a contract agreement, and avoid holding out as a common c

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  1. Gary Moore on Nov 12, 2015

    nope

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  2. Kris Kortokrax on Nov 12, 2015

    I would not start with an outright “Nope” as Gary did. There are many corporate operations conducted by for-hire pilots without the benefit of an Air Carrier certificate.

    But, you have not provided information concerning things such as

    1 Who will provide the airplane?

    2 If you have not held yourself out somehow, how did the college become aware of you and the fact that you are a pilot

    3 What college would entrust their coaching staff to a 250+ hour pilot to fly them through whatever weather might arise (since the games and recruiting would not be delayed just because you or the plane might not be equipped to deal with a given situation)? Think Buddy Holly.

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  3. Russ Roslewski on Nov 12, 2015

    Agreed there is not enough information, plus it appears the post was cut off anyway.

    Kris’s point #1 is the key. If they are providing the airplane, there is no legal problem (once you have your commercial certificate). If you are providing the airplane, that’s where it can get too sticky to rely on the opinion of random “internet people” (us).

    I will agree with Kris’s point #3, except that that information about the OP is undetermined from the post – for all we know he has thousands of hours of multi time, just never got his commercial multi until now. Probably not the case, but possible. But agree, this is not a mission for a low-time pilot, if that’s the case here.

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  4. Kris Kortokrax on Nov 12, 2015

    Russ,

    Call it an educated guess. Pilot certificate information is available on http://www.faa.gov.

    There is only one Blake Webb and his latest certificate was issued on June 2, 2015. I suspect that was the addition of the multi-engine rating at the Private level. Since he is currently working toward a Commercial certificate, I am again assuming that his time is low.

    If my educated guess is wrong, I apologize.

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  5. Mark Kolber on Nov 13, 2015

    I also agree that Kris’ point #1 is the key. If the college is providing airplane, the OP would just be a hired pilot. Generally, no problem for a pilot who has the appropriate certificates, ratings, meets recency of experience, and meets the college’s insurer’s requirements. “Holding out” isn’t even an issue in that scenario. (“Generally” because, even in that situation there can be specific facts to create a problem when there shouldn’t be one).

    If the OP is providing the airplane, there generally is a problem would take a lot to overcome.

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