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The optional equipment in the equipment list under the "O" category states it is optional equipment items replacing required or standard items in the 172RG POH. If any of that equipment is inoperative under this category could I still fly?

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  1. Kris Kortokrax on Jun 29, 2014

    As long as you comply with 91.213, you can still fly.

    Since you are not likely to have an MEL, you will follow 91.213(d).

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  2. Mark Kolber on Jun 30, 2014

    91.213(d) is definitely the analysis for any inop equipment in the aircraft (with no MEL – and the manufacturer’s equipment list in the Wt&Bal section of the POH is NOT a MEL!).

    With respect to “O” equipment, the primary question will be, what is it replacing? Then the analysis is the same – the “O” equipment status is the same as the equipment it is replacing.

    IOW, if it’s replacing “R”equired equipment, you’re done without a ferry permit. If it’s replacing standard equipment that is not required by the manufacturer (“R” or Kinds of Operations lists), AD, or some other item in the 91.213(d) list, then you have to deal with the 91.213(d) requirements for removal or deactivation, placarding, logging, and making the safety call.

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