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Transferring 141 to 141.

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Commercial Pilot, FAA Regulations, Instrument Rating

I am finalizing my college decision to pursue a professional pilot degree, and my top 2 choices are Western Michigan and Ohio State (hometown). If I were to start (and potentially finish) my instrument at WMU (I already have my private), but decide to transfer back home to OSU, would I lose hours? Both are 141 schools, but Ohio State also offers part 61 training. My main concern is whether or not I'd be committed to WMU through my commercial, without losing a large chunk of hours (and subsequently $$). 

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  1. Kris Kortokrax on Apr 29, 2014

    See 141.77(c). You will not lose the hours, but if you transfer from one 141 school to another 141 school, you can only credit 50% of the training to the other school.

    If you transfer from 141 to 61, there is no similar restriction.

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  2. Timothy Broadwater on Apr 29, 2014

    One item that will be a challenge splitting the instrument and commercial training is complying with the restricted ATP requirements 61.160. It does require instrument and commercial to be completed under part 141 and the institution must provide certification that the requirements have been met with credit hours and certification so weigh your options carefully and check how many credits you would have left if/when you transfer to OSU because it might change what you can get as credit. Both are great schools, I had a CFI for my Private from OSU and (Disclaimer) I’ve been instructing at WMU for 12+ years.

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  3. David St. George on May 01, 2014

    Part 141 has the privilege of reduced hour requirements due to the structured curriculum (syllabus) and integrated ground school. For instrument you do not need the (part 61 required) 50 hrs. PIC X-C. You can also earn the commercial in 190 hrs. total time ( instead of 250 part 61). This might not be an issue but also can be an important savings. Part 141 also reflects better on future hiring since it is more highly structured and “FAA-Approved”

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  4. Kris Kortokrax on May 02, 2014

    Don’t know of any air carrier (135 or 121) that asks whether you acquired your certificate under 61 or 141.

    Once you get past the Commercial (whether you do it in 190 or 250 hours), it is still a long way to 1500 hours and an ATP. The savings will only be a factor if you can get a paying job with the 190 hour Commercial pilot certificate. Best chance for that will be as a Flight Instructor, which will still require more training and money.

    If I were hiring, I would rather hire someone who had actually flown 50 hours as PIC XC, than someone who had only flown with an instructor holding his hand.

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