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Night time building

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Hi,

I need to build 50 hours night time, can I fly those hours IFR with a safety pilot and can we log both alternatively PIC and SIC. So we just have to pay 25 hrs each and I could save 25 hrs cost. Sorry for my pour english, hope you understand me well. Thanks 

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greg

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  1. Gary Moore on Feb 24, 2013

    no

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  2. lo_fly on Feb 24, 2013

    yes, you can fly in simulated instrument with your friend as safety pilot and both log PIC regardless is night or day VFR.

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  3. Kris Kortokrax on Feb 24, 2013

    Greg,

    There are some things which you need to consider.

    If the flight is made in Instrument Meteorological Conditions (i.e. in the clouds), there is no provision for you and your safety pilot to log time, because a safety pilot is only required for flight in Visual conditions.

    If you conduct the flights in Visual conditions, a safety pilot is only required for the time that one of you is flying under the hood. You are not conducting simulated instrument flying for start, taxi out, takeoff, landing, taxi in, shutdown. Only one pilot may log the total time for the trip. The other pilot must subtract the time when there is no simulated instrument flying being performed.

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  4. Gary Moore on Feb 24, 2013

    I think logging PIC as safety pilot in Day VFR is clearly skirting the intention of the reg. If the point is for you to build 50 hours of experience flying at night – I gotta believe the expectation is that YOU get the 50 hours of experience FLYING….

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  5. Mark Kolber on Feb 24, 2013

    Gary, where did you get there idea he was trying to change day into night?

    Greg, if I understand correctly, you need to build 50 hours of generic night flight time as defined by the FAA for some purpose that is not related to a specific regulatory requirement.

    If that is the case, I don’t see any problem with using safety pilot time.

    But, if that time is for a specific regulatory or job purpose, it depends on how the FAA or the job defines its requirements. For example, if those 50 hours were to meet a cross country requirement, the FAA is on record as rejecting safety pilot cross country time.

    So you may have to be more specific out that the time is to be counted for.

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  6. P on Feb 25, 2013

    Fly what you can. Log what you need

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  7. Mark Kolber on Feb 26, 2013

    Hmmm. Did you =really= just recommend, “fly what you can and falsify your logbook for the rest?”

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